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Team Topologies in action

Bibhas Roy • Jul 16, 2021

Week two of the #EnterpriseAgilityMonth

#EnterpriseAgilityMonth week – Team Topologies in action


In 2019, Matthew Skelton and Manuel Pais published their book Team Topologies which has become on of the best guide available for technology teams to think about organising their teams for fast flow.


On the first day of week two of the Enterprise Agility Month, we had a great discussion about Team Topologies. Through three different examples the session brought to life how the different teams applied the insight and the principles in the book to actually achieve their goals.


If you haven't read the Team Topologies book, then please read it because that will make things really clear. In fact I would recommend reading Accelerate first and then Team Topologies because Team Topologies follows on from there.


It is better to point to the vast body of knowledge on the topic including the examples.


The three example journeys presented in the session: 

  • Croz : building a successful platform team for a professional services company  - by Ivan Krnic
  • Puregym: Responding better to the evolving business needs by John Kilmister and Richard Allen
  • Paul Ingles, CTO of uSwitch (RVU group) shared the story of exceptional growth. From 25 “releases” per year to more than 50 per hour! Profit grew by over 1300% and >10x to that of nearest competitor. This was achieved over 5+years with relentless improvements over time.


Some of the important takeaways are:

  • Team Topologies provide great insights and principles to think about the teams and how they can get better at fast flow of change to help businesses and organisations
  • This is a point in time snapshot, based on the specific context or challenge the teams and the organisation is facing at that point in time. Always resist the temptation to use it as a permanent organisation structure. It is dynamic and evolves with the context.
  • Focus must always be on the fast flow of change, to give value to the consumers (internal users or external customers) quicker, better and safer.
  • Stream aligned teams are the “value interface” to the customers and empowering them to be self-sufficient is very important. Other teams help them to improve the flow of change (eg deploy multiple times into production every day).
  • Think about Platform as a product too and apply product management discipline. Otherwise platform teams will solve for themselves and not think about their customers eg., the internal engineers in stream aligned teams. X-as-a-service interaction model for platforms is very powerful if boundaries are right and will scale and be friction-free.
  • Collaboration mode is expensive and can slow things down, so it must be short-lived (days and weeks not months). External consulting and specialist teams are really good examples of Enabling team and they do add value. DIY learning is very expensive.
  • Data capability is more suited to Platform teams. However if the context is right and the stream aligned teams can improve flow by owning some of the the analysis and insights work then it is worth investing in those capabilities within the stream aligned teams.
  • All three of these organisations invested in taking their people on the journey. The patterns helped to clarify the roles, the expected interactions and behaviours and the goals. That not only helped with adoption but also made teams happier. 
  • Team engagements had to be designed and curated with time carved out for conversations and activities. The people change aspect is as important, if not more than, the hard technology architecture and tooling bits.
  • I learnt about the term “vintage skills” - (c) Ivan Krnic - more to follow on this.


The interesting thing about all of these stories is that they did not start from a place where they were constrained by legacy tech architecture and delivery processes. They all used more “modern” software engineering principles. TDD/BDD approach to s/w development, CI/CD pipeline and automation, micro-services and containerisation. But despite all of that they ran into similar challenges that exists in larger enterprises with more legacy (or vintage) tech and a more silo delivery models.


Finally, all of these three examples said that there were no resistance from the teams to adopt the principles and try out. Typically teams do resist adopting such changes in the way they work. This shows the power of the Team Topologies.


Look forward to next week where it is about People - https://www.seacom.online/agenda-people.


  • Tuesday 20th July 12:30-14:00 BST : Techstinction : How our use of technology will be the death of us all, unless we act now. - Barry Chandler (SEACOM lead)
  • Wednesday 21st July 12:30 -13:45 BST: How To Make Loveliness - Bruce Lawson, one of the co-editors of the HTML5.3 spec
  • Thursday 22nd July 12:30 - 14:00 BST :
  • The Role of Research in Building Mentally Healthy Workplaces - Lea Milligan, CEO of MQ: Mental Health Research
  • Storytelling: Shifting the Culture through sharing experiences - Bianca Sias, Enterprise Transformation Coach at JP Morgan 


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